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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Rick Doblin: The Psychedelic Renaissance

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2018

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Rick Doblin, PhD, is a Harvard-trained researcher and the founder of MAPS—the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies. Rick and MAPS work to develop a legal framework for the application of psychedelic drugs both as medication and for personal psychological growth. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon speaks with Rick about the current clinical research surrounding the use of MDMA to treat post-traumatic stress disorder, as well as many other possibilities for other psychedelic-assisted therapies. They talk about the current "psychedelic renaissance" in therapeutic treatment, reflecting on some of the risks of such drug-assisted regimens and the need for careful integration of psychedelic experiences. With this in mind, Tami and Rick discuss his relationship with the Zendo Project, a department of MAPS devoted to helping individuals who are having emotionally challenging psychedelic experiences at festivals and events. Finally, Rick explains his own lifelong relationship with psychedelic drugs, including his hopes for future treatments and a national "coming out party" of prominent individuals who can attest to the difference psychedelics have made in their lives. (73 minutes)

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This program is brought to you by sounds true.com.

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At sounds true.com you can find hundreds of downloadable audio

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learning programs, plus books, music, videos, and online courses, and events.

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At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

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offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

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Sounds True.com, many voices, one journey. You're listening to Insights at the edge. Today my guest is Dr. Rick Doblin.

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Rick is the founder and executive director of the Multidisciplinary Association for

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Psychodelic, known as Maps.

0:55.0

He received his doctorate in public policy from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government,

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where he wrote his dissertation on the regulation of the medical uses

1:06.4

of psychedelics and marijuana.

1:09.2

His professional goal is to help develop legal contexts for the beneficial uses of

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psychedelics, primarily as prescription medicines, but also for personal growth

1:21.6

for otherwise healthy people and eventually to become a legally

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licensed psychedelic therapist.

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In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Rick and I spoke about Rick's lifelong relationship

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with the drugs that he studies at maps and how he stresses that it's the personal relationship that you have with the drug that matters most.

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Who feels it knows it?

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We talked about how MDMA assisted therapy now in its third set of clinical trials has been

1:57.5

proven to help many people who have PTSD and the mechanism of action for MDMA when it comes to healing trauma.

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We talked about Rick's development of the Zendo Project and how the project creates a safe place to support people when

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navigating difficult experiences while on

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