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Hello, my dear sweet friends. It is I, Duncan Trussle, and you're listening to the Duncan Trussle Family Hour Podcast.

And if you're like millions and millions of people currently existing on this beautiful planet floating in space, then you've tried a psychedelic drug before.

You've taken LSD mushrooms. Maybe you've smoked some DMT. Maybe you've taken MDMA. A lot of people say that's not a psychedelic. I think it is.

But you've taken some kind of substance and somewhere in the heightened state of awareness that you were experiencing, somewhere in the midst of having an explosion of an epiphanies or realizing that there's certain areas of your life that you need to work on or realizing that you need to

maybe call your mom and tell her you're sorry for being such a jackass for the last 15 years or maybe just in the midst of having a really great picnic with some friends or maybe even while experiencing some of the most incredible sex that you've ever had in your life or maybe somewhere in between bites of some food that you've eaten for your entire life but you're tasting for the first time right then or maybe somewhere as you're gazing down at the shadows of the trees as they move upon whatever body of water you're sitting in front of you.

You realize that those shadows almost look like some kind of ancient primordial language and it occurs to you that language itself could be the shadow of God or maybe just as you are enjoying a nice day alone at home in a heightened state of awareness.

The terrible thought entered into your consciousness that the experience that you are having has been criminalized by your government.

And it probably gave you pause it sure is given me pause more than a few times as I'm sitting wherever I happen to be sitting or walking wherever I happen to be walking feeling a kind of buoyant state of connection to my entire species and it desired to be kind and to listen and to give more and to help more and the sense of wanting to really make the most of my life.

It's occurred to me during those moments that have been brought on by imbibing prohibited substances that this experience is not just an important experience but a vital experience and my own personal growth and that the fact that some government has made this experience illegal seems to be an indication of a terrible experience.

It's a terrible mistake and if not a mistake then something so incredibly sinister that if you think about it too long while under the influence of a psychoactive drug you might actually feel a shadow creeping into your trip.

You might begin to get a little paranoid or start looking around wondering if there's a police officer nearby who is going to notice that you have a radiant grin on your face and see that as probable cause to look through your stuff and if he happens to find anything in your bag or your pockets that has been deemed illegal by the government then he will have the right to throw him in.

To throw handcuffs on you put you in the back of a squad car and take you to the dungeons and if you think about it too long things can get really dark and sinister and I think a lot of trips have gone from being pretty awesome to being pretty terrible just by that consideration that the incredible experience that these substances provide to us has for illogical or political or political.

Or nefarious reasons been criminalized as far as I'm concerned this is one of the most absurd aspects of the modern society that we currently exist in but thankfully things have begun to shift their shifting because of the tireless effort of folks like Rick Doblin and the people over at maps the multidisciplinary association for psychedelic studies these are the folks doing the heavy lifting.

And if you're a psycho not if you're somebody who recognizes the insanity of our current drug policy then I really hope you'll spend some time over at their website at maps.org and see if you can figure out a way to help them out and I'm really grateful that Rick took the time to be on this podcast we're going to dive right into it but first some very quick business this episode of the Dunkin Trussle Family Hour podcast is brought to you by those sweet technological gnomes over at the

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