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Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show with your host, Eric Mataxis.

Hey there folks, if you listen to the show, you know that one of the things that

has become kind of an obsession with me is the relationship between the church and the state

and the role of the church, I don't mean the institutional organization called the church,

I mean the church, the people of God, the role that we have and how that relates to politics

and so on and so forth. And I've written a book about it which is coming out in September,

called Letter to the American Church. And I was thrilled not long ago to see a book titled

God, Caesar and Idols, the church and the struggle for America's soul. The author is Rick Boyer.

It's isn't the back of the book that once one nation under God,

America today is desperately sick and the church seems to have no answers. So this is, you've heard

me talk about this, right? How can a nation so church'd be so untouched by what we call the gospel?

Why has the glory departed, leaving a nation racked by political hatred, drug addiction,

shattered families on and on and on? These are my questions, this is what we talk about a lot

on this program. So I'm thrilled to have the author of God, Caesar and Idols. As my guest, Rick Boyer,

welcome to the program. Thank you, Eric. I can't say enough how much of respect I have for you

and your organization and your commitment to a biblical worldview and the people of God. It's

it is a tremendous service to the church and to the to the Lord Jesus Christ. You're very kind. I

think, you know, many people listen to this program, of course, who are not committed Christians,

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