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The Ruck

Richie McCaw previews England vs New Zealand

The Ruck

Reynolds Alfie

World Cup, Autumn Internationals, Lions, Lions Tour, Rugby, Sport, Guinness Rugby Premiership, News, Sports, Sports News, Six Nations

3.4566 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

All Blacks legend and double world cup winning New Zealand captain Richie McCaw joins Alfie, Alex and Will to look ahead to the match against England this weekend.


He explains why an All Blacks team should never be 'developing', what makes Ardie Savea such a great player and how he thinks the game will go at Twickenham. The boys also explain why it is such an important match for the Steve Borthwick England era and why his team selection shows what sort of match we could have in store.




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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Ruck, the journalist's rugby podcast from the Times and the Sunday Times as we head into the third week of November

0:21.8

internationals and the biggest week from an England point of view. I'm Alfie Reynolds alongside

0:26.8

Will Keleher and Alex Lowe. We're back up at the England training base. This is the big one,

0:30.9

isn't it, lad? This is the one Alex that was circled in the calendar before a ball was kicked

0:34.7

this November? For England, definitely. I think we all saw the Australia team likely to deliver the performance.

0:41.7

They did outside of the window, tired as they looked tired all autumn.

0:46.2

Fiji delivered the performance.

0:48.1

I think we expected, which was exciting, open, aggressive, attacking for an hour and then wouldn't be able to match England

0:57.6

in the last 20 minutes, fitness, etc. This is the game that will define the autumn, but I think

1:02.7

is also a statement game for this Borthwick period with England. I think they've gone nine in a row,

1:10.6

nine wins in a row. There is

1:12.3

definite progress. If you look at, you look at where this England team were a year ago,

1:16.5

compared to where they are now, they were very close to beating the All Black three times.

1:20.9

I think they can and should and maybe will beat them this weekend. Better team, better squad,

1:27.2

better mindset, better everything.

1:29.3

There's a lot of riding on it. And I would hope that we get a real bouncing, fizzing,

1:34.5

Twicken them as well. I can't wait. Like, we probably get a bit used to these weeks sometimes

1:41.4

because we are lucky and we do a lot of them and we basically are there whenever

1:45.3

England play but I'm really really looking forward to Saturday.

1:49.8

England, New Zealand at Twickenham is a great fixture isn't it? And it's not always a great game

1:54.0

but on, as you say, circling on a calendar using the old school thing, I was thinking when you

1:57.7

said that is it is the modern equivalent like getting a notification off your time tree, maybe? Doesn't have the same ring to it, does it? No, not really. But it's just that thing of, like, the best stuff in sport is when you're about to kick off whatever game it is or have the first ball of an ashes next Friday or something like, and you go, I don't know what's going to happen, and this is going to be great. and I think that's what Saturday at 10 past three will be like we'll have the hucker we'll have swing low as usual ringing round during it and we'll all go right what have both of these teams got and that's a great place to be in isn't it really even so it's going to be wicked yeah it's really funny, depending on who you speak to in the England camp this week,

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