Richard Sherman Podcast - 2013 Legion of Boom vs. 2015 No Fly Zone: Richard Sherman & TJ Ward DEBATE Seahawks-Broncos defenses
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🗓️ 6 March 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Two of the best defensive players of their era, Richard Sherman and T.J. Ward, finally go head-to-head on one of the biggest questions in NFL history: Who had the best defense—the 2013 Seattle Seahawks’ Legion of Boom or the 2015 Denver Broncos’ No Fly Zone? Sherm and T.J. break it all down, position by position. From Seattle’s legendary secondary with Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor to Denver’s stacked D led by Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware, they cover turnovers, sacks, offensive support, and who really had the tougher path to the Super Bowl.
It gets real as both All-Pros passionately defend their squads. Sherman argues the Legion of Boom took over the league with insane takeaways and football IQ, while Ward makes the case for the No Fly Zone’s relentless pass rush and lock-down coverage. They even dig into that unforgettable Super Bowl vs. Peyton Manning and how their defenses matched up against elite QBs like Drew Brees and Cam Newton.
So, what do you think—Legion of Boom or No Fly Zone? Drop your pick in the comments!
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| 0:31.6 | Welcome back to the Richard Chairman podcast. |
| 0:40.6 | And today we got an incredible guest, T.J. Ward, former De LaSalle High School, |
| 0:47.5 | former Oregon Duck, all pro for the Cleveland Browns, former Denver Broncos. |
| 0:53.9 | I mean, you've been everywhere, TJ, brother. Appreciate you joining me. Hey, man, no doubt. Thanks for having me, sir. Man, it's a pleasure. Great seeing you doing your thing on every platform, man. I'm trying to catch up, man. I'm trying to catch up. I appreciate you coming on, brother. I see you grinding, got your own pot, doing your thing. |
| 1:11.0 | It's going to be a fun discussion. |
| 1:12.2 | Man, I can't wait. |
| 1:13.2 | Always is, man. |
| 1:14.4 | I tell people all the time, man, we go back to college when we was battling on Rainbow |
| 1:19.6 | Six on the PlayStation 2 back in the day, man. |
| 1:24.8 | Take me back, man. |
| 1:26.0 | We used to be growing. |
| 1:27.0 | Man, good time. Good time. It seemed like forever ago. But, man, man, nonetheless, man, I'm glad to be here. Glad to be here. Yeah, so let's commence with the show. Let's commence with the show, man. It's been a few weeks since we've been kind of going back and forth on our opinions about our great defenses. |
| 1:45.2 | And let's get that understood first, man. |
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