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Richard Seymour on Luigi Mangione

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🗓️ 23 December 2024

⏱️ 2 minutes

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If you would like to listen to this episode of PTO Extra please consider becoming a £5 patron on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/poltheoryother In today’s episode Richard Seymour responds to listener questions on the overthrow of Assad in Syria, the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson and the significance of widespread public sympathy for Luigi Mangione. We also talked about “normie socialism”, a Soviet counterfactual, and what books Richard has been reading this year. As always, thanks to everyone who sent in a question and for your continued support.

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0:00.0

So Richard, our first question comes from Callum, who says,

0:03.1

What might the assassination of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson

0:07.3

and popular support for the accused Luigi Mangione

0:10.5

tell us about the class struggle and class consciousness in the United States?

0:15.2

What parallels might be drawn to other periods and places

0:18.3

where assassination was a common political tactic, sometimes

0:21.8

symptomatic of a lack of political organisation. You know, it's funny, this question overlaps

0:28.7

with something that I wrote recently about Eric Hobsbom's concept of the social bandit, which I think

0:36.8

this is probably what the questioner is actually

0:38.6

getting at. So Hobbesbaum is describing periods in rural, traditional life where these

0:47.5

bandit heroes emerge. Their enemies are the foes of the poor traditionally. They're regarded as

0:53.5

criminal by the state, but not by the

0:55.6

people. So to that extent, the people protect them. And the critical point that Obtwan makes

1:01.6

is that the social bandit is a kind of pre-political, non-revolutionary form of protest

1:08.0

before people really discover more effective ways of resisting. So a society that

1:13.4

calls the social bandit into existence clearly has problems that it doesn't yet know how to solve.

1:19.9

And so then the question is, you know, why should it be that the United States, an advanced

1:25.1

capital society, should call into being this social type. It's

1:29.5

redolent of what Ernst Block calls the living yesterday. You know, there's a sense in which

1:34.8

the United States is so paralyzed as a country, institutionally and politically paralyzed,

1:41.8

that it's almost impossible to get any meaningful

1:45.3

and effective political reform achieved.

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