I was.

And there's nothing going on tonight.

We could be in the city right. I mean you just get drunk and stay in time. Good afternoon Michael malice here back from New York.

I have with us a guest who might be one of the most requested guests I have.

We swim in the same circles.

We have not had an interaction before.

I'm really excited to have Richard Hananiya on the show.

He's the author most recently of The Origins of Woke.

He's also the president of the Center for the study of partisanship and ideology.

Richard, I don't no longer know like who hates who.

So I'm going to apologize for what I'm about to say if I'm stepping on a rake, but I put you in the same mental set as people like James

Lindsey, Rob Henderson, or on McIntyre to some extent, by which I mean, okay, see I already

fucked up. I'm not making my friend.

Rob Henderson is my friend.

So Rob that face is not for you.

Okay, but my what I meant by that is people who understand that politics is much more about

anthropology than it is about what the problem is with the

Republicans and looking at how people behave and make decisions as opposed to thinking

it's literally about the issues which is just surface chatter obscuring how power actually behaves. Is that inaccurate

the definition as opposed to the grouping?

Somewhat. I mean I am interested in the culture wars these sort of metapholitics.

The origins of woke is sort of almost like the opposite end of the spectrum of that.

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