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He's one of my buddies there.

He is the chairman of Meredith of the President, I'm sorry, President Emeritus of the

Council of Foreign Relations, which he ran for only about 20 years

One of the most important

Organizations in the world when it comes to foreign policy he's written only 13 books

14 books 13 of them are on foreign policy.

One is the latest one which is out in paperback, a New York Times Best Seller,

the Bill of Obligations, the Ten Habits of Good Citizens Medal, the

Secretary of Distinguished Service Award, a temporary International Peace Award,

a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for being here, sir.

Good to be with you, Mr. Deutsch. So obviously Thank you've talked about it in your

You've talked about it in your interviews how when you started at the

council 20 years ago how different different the world, obviously the world changes every 20 years,

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