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The Good Fight

Richard Haass on Where America Went Wrong

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Richard Haass is a veteran American diplomat, statesman, and author. He is president of the Council on Foreign Relations, and served as Special Assistant to President George H. W. Bush and as Director of Policy Planning at the State Department in the administration of President George W. Bush. His most recent book is The Bill of Obligations: The Ten Habits of Good Citizens. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Richard Haass discuss the structural challenges, missed opportunities, and poor choices of the last thirty years; the arc of American foreign policy from Vietnam to Iraq; and how civic-minded Americans can effect positive change at a moment of crisis. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Co. UK. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:47.0

Hi, my name is Damon Linker, and I write the subscription newsletter Eyes on the Right at Substack.

0:56.0

I recently wrote a piece for persuasion titled The Red Pill Poser.

1:01.5

Now, you've all heard versions of the claim. People on the

1:05.2

populist right saying things like I've been red-pilled when they announce they've

1:10.1

been persuaded to disregard liberal democratic laws and norms.

1:14.8

In the red pill pusher, I write about the man who is one of the first to think and talk this

1:20.0

way, a software engineer and tech entrepreneur named Curtis Yarvin.

1:25.0

Yarvin developed these ideas from 2007 to around 2012 under the pseudonym Menchus Moldbug at a blog titled Unqualified Reservations.

1:37.0

The ideas developed there have gone on to influence major players on the

1:41.2

populist right including former Trump campaign manager and senior White House official Steve Bannon, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, and Ohio Senator J.D. Vance.

1:52.0

Now, what does Yarvan teach in these writings? Well, that although

1:57.7

it seems like we're free, that we rule ourselves, that we're a democracy, these claims are a lie.

2:05.0

Real power in the country, he insists,

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