Matt Bennett on The Democrats’ Image Problem

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Matt Bennett is co-founder of the center-left think tank Third Way. Bennett served in the administration of President Bill Clinton and is a veteran of Democratic politics, having acted as an advisor to the presidential campaigns of Clinton, Al Gore, and Wesley Clark. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Matt Bennett discuss why it’s hard for moderate candidates to outcompete extremists for national audiences; the false dichotomy of base mobilization versus courting swing voters (and why you need both); and why Joe Biden remains the strongest Democratic candidate for President heading into 2024. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	BAM, picture this! You're watching your favorite artist,
0:03.4	play. Not that artist!
0:05.4	Ha ha, yeah, that's you!
0:08.0	You look down at the red can in your hand, or is it?
0:11.4	No, it's a Pepsi Max.
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0:23.0	UK Blind Taste Test with over 54,000 people versus UK's biggest selling full sugarcola.
0:27.6	For verification go to Pepsi.
0:28.9	Code at UK slash FAQ.
0:31.8	Fundamentally, the reason that the red wave didn't materialize was because what we found in almost every case, not everyone, but in almost every case in a swing district or state was the mainstream candidate beat the extreme
0:45.9	candidate. At least candidates that were perceived to be mainstream beat the ones
0:49.5	perceived to be extreme. Again it didn't hold everywhere. There are plenty of exceptions but on the
0:54.8	whole broadly speaking that's where people went and they were extreme and we weren't.
1:02.0	And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. There is a big debate about Germany's willingness to help Ukraine.
1:18.4	The particular occasion this time around is the government's differing about whether to The
1:22.8	government's differing about whether to allow the export of leopard tanks, which will become
1:29.8	crucial for Ukraine as some of the older Soviet era tanks, but it has cease being fit for use.
1:40.0	I think this is showing two important things.
1:45.4	One is about the broader attitude towards the Ukraine war.
1:51.2	The war has now been going on for nearly a year. There has been a tremendous amount of attention to it, especially at the beginning,
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