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Really interesting the descriptive language used like you say because the immediate

thoughts now would be flying saucer,

secret tech, none of that was in the lexicon back then. No one on a ship is

expecting anything of the sort. Like you say, bioluminescent algae, which I only know that phrase from Moana.

You could see under the water, but there's someone describing it coming out the water quite clearly, going up into the sky.

And I wonder, and all that research,

have you decided that we should treat,

or you're going to treat the USO subject differently

to the UFO subject? Is there a marked difference in your research,

your approach or even to the origin of what these objects might be?

Well, a couple of things are different about this particular study that I'm doing.

So this is, this collection, and that's really what I'm calling it is a collection so I'm taking each

individual case and I'm rewriting it completely everything's being rewritten in

as excellent manner as I can to bring life to these cases.

So a big portion of the book is simply one case after the next, after the next, after the next after the next so on. Now I have a lot of analysis that I have

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