Disclosure is a totally different thing from contact. Contact's a little different.

Contact implies that they have a motivation for anyone to talk to us, and I think the answer to that is probably no.

Welcome back to the podcast then. Richard Dolan. Richard, welcome back. Hi, Andy. I'm always

happy to be here with you and your audience. Yeah, and we were going to record this last week,

and we're going to do a whole dive into Chinese uphology. I prepared that interview, and then

things changed last week around the world.

Now, I've watched your recent video, I'm sure many folks, Richard, watching and listening

to this may have caught up with your piece around Obama and Trump.

I'll give the really quick recap for anyone under a rock that hasn't seen or heard the comments.

The quick, too long didn't read version is President Obama was on the Brian Tyler Cohen podcast.

He was asking a speed round, do you think aliens exist?

And he said, yeah, they're real, but they're not in area 51.

There's no underground base unless there's a huge conspiracy against the president of the United States.

This was then obviously followed up online by Obama having to backtrack a little bit and say,

look, I was talking about statistical probability, etc. I did not learn anything about the

existence of E.T. during my presidency. Again, you can dig into that if you like, that careful language and wording.

Of course, then sitting President Donald Trump is asked about Obama's comments.

This is the interesting part for me where Trump, and we'll get into this, Richard,

Trump says on Air Force One, Obama's made a big mistake, he's given away classified information,

he shouldn't be saying that he's asked if aliens are real, he says he doesn't know, he doesn't

like getting into it. We've heard some of that before, but it was a different reaction from

President Trump. Then 24 hours later on Truth Social, President Trump follows up with a post to say that he's basically getting

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