I've been seen. We think of the city right.

Maybe just keep you can stay in time. Good afternoon Michael Alice here. Let that be your welcome for the next hour. We have with us a real real treat Richard Aldous historian

you are the only person I have ever written fan mail to after having written a book I write a book of theirs. So I'm very excited that you're here. We're

going to talk about that book in a second. I want to go over your bibliography, which

is very impressive and has a lot of names I have no idea where they are.

I knew that I knew there was going to be a kicker coming somewhere in there.

Well it's true I mean I'm a fairly educated and informed American, but your first book was about

Malcolm Sergeant. This is not a household name. Yeah, Malcolm Sergeant is one of the great

conductors of the 20th century, but he is very much a British figure

very important during the Second World War when he kind of tours with orchestras

around not just Britain but goes to neutral countries, follows people like Herbert von Carreyanne and

Furt Vengler and they do these competing concerts.

So he's very much a cultural figure.

In Britain.

Yeah.

Now this one is obviously much more popular here. Macmillan,

Eisenhower in the Cold War. What was what was? Yeah, I mean that's that's one of my one of the

real themes of my work kind of going right back to when I started out as a historian that looking at Anglo-American relations,

that one is looking at McMillan and Eisenhower in the immediate aftermath of the Sioux is crisis,

looking at how they rebuilt the special relationship and obviously you know we're going to be

talking a bit later about another special relationship right?

Oh yes sir. We have the Lion and the Unicorn Disraeli versus Gladstone versus

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