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Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic. Each weekday we bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoic, something that can help you live up to those four

Stoic virtues of courage, justice, wisdom, and temperance. And here on the weekend we take a deeper dive into those same topics. We interview Stoic philosophers, we reflect, we prepare, we think deeply about the challenging issues of our time. And we work through this philosophy in a way that's more possible here when we're not rushing to worker to get the kids to school.

We have the time to think, to go for a walk, to sit with our journals, and to prepare for what the future will bring.

Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another weekend episode of the Daily Stoic. Yesterday I had the privilege of interviewing my friend Rich Roll.

Well, today's episode, the rules are reversed. Rich Roll is interviewing me for the launch of lives of the Stoic's. Rich and I were supposed to get together in Los Angeles and do an awesome event for LA Talks Live.

I was lucky enough to interview Robert Green in the same format when laws of human nature came out and thought it'd be awesome to get to see my friend Rich to do a big theater event for the book.

As you can imagine, that went by the wayside. So we did this remote when I was down at the beach in Florida. I was on my laptop. Rich Roll was in his amazing shipping container office that is placed there in Malibu.

So we were not able to be in the same room together, but we had a great conversation instead of me interviewing him. He was interviewing me, but we go in depth on some of the same topics that we did yesterday, but from the other perspective.

As I said yesterday, Rich is just one of my favorite people. It was an honor to be interviewed by him. I think you will see just what an incredible interviewer Rich is. He'll put my interview with him to shame. I'm sure he's so good at asking the right questions. He's such a thoughtful guy. I think you'll love this.

And of course, Rich has a new book out. You can check out called Voicing Change. You can also listen to my interviews with Rich on his podcast. I love Rich's book Finding Ultra. It's one of my all time favorites. Love following Rich on Instagram and YouTube. Just a great guy. Love his podcast. His interview with George Ravelin is incredible.

Just a great guy. And I am planning. I just sent an email this morning. I am going to have Rich Rolls father David Roll who wrote a wonderful book about George Marshall on the podcast very soon as well. So enjoy this interview with me and Rich Roll.

Welcome to another virtual live talks Los Angeles event. We welcome Ryan holiday and Rich Roll to our series. We invite you also to visit our YouTube channel for over 300 conversations much like this, including an episode with Ryan interviewing Robert Green.

Today, they'll talk about Ryan's book Lives of the Stoics, the art of living from Xeno to Marcus Arrelius. Glad to be here and good to see you Ryan. It would be nice to do this in person, but this is the world that we live in.

It would be nice to do a lot of things these days, but that's where we are.

Well, we're here to celebrate your new book Lives of the Stoics, which I'm thoroughly enjoying. Congratulations on the.

Thank you.

I will as somebody who's known you for many years, though, my first, my sort of knee jerk reaction when I heard that you were writing this book was was immediately like really like we're going to continue down this path.

Like what is this fixation on stoicism that you simply can't seem to shake, you know.

Yeah, somebody who no, obviously is credited with doing more to popularize this strain of thought than than any other, but I'm interested in in, you know, from whence this fixation, you know, or originates and you've spoken about your introduction to this canon of thought by

by dent of of needing drew pinsky at an event, but I'm interested in what's behind that like what was going on with you personally as a young man that magnetized you so completely about the Stoics in this particular vein of philosophy.

It was a, it was a weird experience. I bought this random book on Amazon as one does. I remember back then I had to wait for two days shipping because Amazon Prime didn't exist yet.

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