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Welcome to the Eric Matex's show.

You know, sometimes Eric pretends to be interested in his guess.

But he's really just doing a crossword puzzle and rolling his eyes at what they say.

He told me never to say that, ever.

Ha, ha, ha, ha.

But look, I made a mistake. Oh!

I'm human.

In my way.

Only I'm not.

And now you're host, Eric Matex's.

Hey, folks.

I would love to continue the conversation with Rich Lowry.

And guess what?

We lock the doors and Rich is still here.

Rich, you were just making such an important point that before the 1776 declaration of independence,

140 years earlier, we have a situation in this country.

So let's just go back to that and talk about how our ideas about freedom precede some of the enlightenment writings.

Yeah, so the settlers in Massachusetts Bay, they take the charter with them from England that they get from the king.

There's a technical loophole that allows them to do this.

They really weren't supposed to.

But they wanted to have this document key to their governing authority in their own possession.

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