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dot com saccio f i l-l-l-a-s dot com two C's two L's Rich Lowry the editor of the National

Review have you ever been on that rancid morning show? I have. It's been a while, but I have. It was years ago. I think it was in Trump's first term. Well, you hated Trump back then. You were never Trump or back then. Well, no, actually, that's probably warm enough because he was doing good conservative stuff. But that show used to be really good. I mean, Joe Scarborough was a smart guy and a good political analyst. And he used to have a wide range of views. Pat Buchanan used to be on that show. It was good. But then they ruined it. And now it's just ad adept, I had a prop like the rest of that network. You know, it's funny you mentioned Pap Buchanan. I got to know him a little bit during the Amist days, but then, you know, he was widely

known as a pretty virulent anti-Semite, and a lot of folks got disgusted with him. I know that

he was part of that reform party, Jesse Ventura. I'm not a political historian like you by any

stretch. I was doing sports back then, but I do know that Buchanan went from a guy that ran on that minor ticket for president and was a respected guy

like you said on all these TV shows to a guy that basically at the end was known as just

some angry old anti-Semite. Yeah, he didn't hold a candle to our current crew in terms of

the anti-Semitism, though.

I mean, he said some things that were bad, and he was a World War II revisionist.

I think that's what killed him at the end.

He, he was serious presidential campaigns in 92 and 96.

One states, you know, one primaries and caucuses, and then went over, spun out in the outer space

in their foreign party, but still a great political in all. I mean, the guy is brilliant. But then

he was canceled for Morning Joe when he wrote a book against going into World War II.

Aye, yeah, yie. You got to understand that when we were big up with the I-Mish show and I-MIS was having

his greatest success and I was a part of that, and we would have Mike Barnacle on that show

all the time.

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