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Ricardo Hausmann on What it Takes to Win a Trade War

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🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

The focus of Trump's trade policies is clearly China. There are tariffs on everyone, of course, but it's the growing Chinese manufacturing might, and the various perceived risks associated with that, which have catalyzed this impulse to rethink how America trades with the rest of the world. But can the US actually move the manufacturing center of gravity? On this episode we welcome back Harvard Professor Ricardo Hausmann. We've had him on before to talk about the importance of economic complexity -- the capacity to build complex things -- in measuring the wealth of nations. On this episode we use that lens to discuss tariffs and the trade war, and the risks that the new administration's policies will play in reducing our capacity to build the most advanced things.

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In this ongoing trade war, I don't know, I guess it's a trade war, all the trade headlines.

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I have to say one of the things I always think

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about is, and I write about it, and we reference it, the two of us reference it all the time,

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the complexity and the importance of sort of building complex things as a marker of a sort of

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country's capacity for wealth and the sort of complex international trade webs that undergird

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