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Visit indeed.com slash next hire and sponsor your job today This is Monica Perez here today with our fourth installment of our discussion of the book Rhythm, Rites, and Revolution by David Nobel from 1966.

And previously, in the previous chapters and parts of this book, I thought it was super fascinating because

although it was full of red scare stuff, it had a lot of details about Pavlov and Russian

experiments, about how to make, you know, get certain responses from certain kind of music to

certain age groups. Now they move from those physiological responses.

This guy's narrative here in this book,

he moves from the physiological responses to where the college age kids that they're

targeting now or that he's talking about now,

they move towards folk music and he's saying it's

strictly based on the message of the lyrics. And I guess basically you're more susceptible to

certain messages when they're in the form of song. You certainly remember them or whatever.

But he goes into how folk music is delivering extremely communist subversive messages.

And to me, really what's going on, and this is after the book Major Jordan's Diaries came out,

I don't know if you've ever heard of that, a major in the army, I think it was, had testified in front of the House

on American Activities Committee and also wrote a book about how towards the end of the war,

and I think maybe even after the war, he oversaw shipments of weaponry and other things to the

Soviet Union that it was under the, I I mean I don't know if it started

before the Roosevelt administration or what let me see I had a I had the angels make me a summary

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