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The Psychology Podcast

Rhonda Magee || The Inner Work of Racial Justice

The Psychology Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Science, Social Sciences

4.4 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I talk to law professor and mindfulness leader Rhonda Magee about her book The Inner Work of Racial Justice. We discuss her innovative approach to healing racial divides using mindfulness. Rhonda argues that when we bring awareness and compassion to ourselves, relationships, and the environment, we invite healing and connection. We also touch on the topics of education, spirituality, liberation, democracy, and community.

Bio

Rhonda V. Magee (M.A. Sociology, J.D.) is a Professor of Law at the University of San Francisco and an internationally-recognized thought and practice leader focused on integrating mindfulness into higher education, law and social change work. Rhonda’s teaching and writing support compassionate conflict engagement and management; holistic problem-solving to alleviate the suffering of the vulnerable and injured; presence-based leadership in a diverse world, and humanizing approaches to education. Her book, The Inner Work of Racial Justice, advocates for a mindfulness and compassion-based approach to confront racial injustice and work towards healing.

Website: www.rhondavmagee.com

Twitter: @rvmagee

 

Topics

01:45 Rhonda’s childhood and upbringing

06:48 Personal vs systemic racism 

09:43 Education during desegregation 

16:55 Rhonda’s interest in mindfulness

25:12 Bridge racial divides with mindfulness

32:51 Liberating practices grounded in being

42:59 Listen for understanding and connection

46:28 The ecology for justice

51:47 Find a collective consensus 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

It's important to notice when we're too focused on that sense of our bounded ego-based,

0:08.0

separate identity.

0:10.0

And, you know, to be engaged in the kind of set of practices that can deliver us when we're getting stuck.

0:24.0

Hello, and welcome to the Psychology Podcast.

0:26.0

In this episode, I talk to law professor and mindfulness leader Ronda McGee about her book,

0:32.0

The Inner Work of Racial Justice.

0:34.0

In this episode, we discuss her innovative approach to healing racial divides using mindfulness.

0:38.0

Ronda argues that when we bring awareness and compassion to ourselves,

0:42.0

relationships, and the environment, we invite healing and connection.

0:46.0

We also touch on the topics of education, spirituality, liberation, democracy, and community.

0:52.0

So that further ado, I bring you Ronda McGee.

0:54.0

Well, I'm really excited to talk to you today, and I thought we could just dive in because I, you know,

1:00.0

that's just having a formal chat, you know?

1:04.0

Yes, let's do. Thank you.

1:06.0

And thank you for the invitation to have this chat.

1:10.0

I'm a fan of your work and really just appreciating what you're offering right now in the world that needs,

1:18.0

who, you know, so many different sources of support.

1:22.0

And I see you as definitely offering that.

1:24.0

And I appreciate that very much.

1:26.0

You know, thank you so much for saying that.

1:28.0

And I feel the same way about you at your name.

1:30.0

Just kept coming up among so many people that I follow.

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