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Hello, welcome to another Rahalasabababat club after a week or so off. I'm delighted this week to have been reading Slags by Emma Jane Unsworth, who joins me now. Hello, Emma. Hello, Richard. How are you? I'm very good. Is Emma okay, or do I have to call it Emma Jane? Oh, no, Emma's fine. Emma Jane, I just, do you know why I put that in there?

Because otherwise, if you say Emma Runsworth, it just sounds like, it doesn't sound great,

because it sounds like some kind of Victorian scullery maid who cleared Jane apart or something. He's Emma Ronsworth. So Emma Jane, Gets a little pause in between the vowels. It does. It's class. You're right, it is, it's good. Your parents made a mistake there. By putting two vowels next week. Made many, many.

They made many mistakes. You're right, it is good. Your parents made a mistake there. I put his two of hours next week.

Many, many.

They made many mistakes. But that might be true.

Look, let's first of all just talk about you a bit and what you've done before.

It seems to be like you sort of came out fully formed as a writer straight away.

We meet a lot of writers who've done something else first, but it feels like you've just sort of been a writer. I kind of shamefully never had a plan B. It was always kind of writing or bust, I think. Although I did start as a journalist initially, because that seemed like the best way to kind of make a bit of money, and I like to review books. I worked for a little magazine in Manchester called City Life magazine, which was fantastic. And then, and then, yeah, but then just kind of always wanted to write fiction, always felt drawn to that. It took a long time to actually get write a book, had to do a creative writing course for actually got a whole book done. And then it was so dreadful that no one would publish it. And it's on a flop. And this tells you how long ago it was. It's on a floppy disks, probably in landfill where it belongs. But yeah, you know, I didn't really want to do anything else, which was, and it was so great that my parents just, you know, one of the mistakes they, one of the things they didn't make a mistake in, I guess, is that they never said to me, you can't do that. They never said,

you know, you have to be a doctor, you have to be a lawyer. They never made me do anything

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