RFK Says Vaccines Are *Not* For The Birds
Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast
WNYC Studios
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🗓️ 25 March 2025
⏱️ 17 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | from WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Tuesday, |
| 0:11.5 | March 25th. With Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at the helm of our country's health agencies, |
| 0:19.3 | he is tasked with the job of quelling the disease that's |
| 0:23.3 | killed millions of birds and infected some humans along the way, generally known as bird flu. |
| 0:29.9 | A few weeks ago, RFK Jr. sat down with Fox News as Sean Hannity at a stake-and-shake in Florida |
| 0:36.4 | to talk about what he's doing to curb bird flu infection. |
| 0:40.1 | Here's a minute of that conversation, and spoiler alert, RFK opposes vaccines. |
| 0:46.0 | All of my agencies have advised against vaccination of birds. Because if you vaccinate with a leaky |
| 0:52.2 | vaccine, in other words, a vaccine that does not provide sterilizing immunity, that does not absolutely protect against the disease, you turn those flocks into mutation factories. |
| 1:05.0 | They're generating, they're teaching the organism how to mutate. |
| 1:10.0 | And it's much, it destabilized and it's much more likely to jump to animals if you |
| 1:14.9 | do that. All my agency heads from NIH CDC and FDA had all said we should not be vaccinating |
| 1:22.2 | as dangerous for human beings to vaccinate the birds. The question is, should you call those blocks? |
| 1:29.8 | Most of our scientists are against the culling operation. |
| 1:33.7 | They think that we should be testing therapeutics on those flocks. |
| 1:37.7 | They should isolate them. |
| 1:39.3 | You should let the disease go through them and identify the birds that survive, |
| 1:43.7 | which are the birds that probably have |
| 1:46.0 | a genetic inclination for immunity, and those should be the birds that we breed like the wild |
| 1:51.1 | population. RFK Jr. with Sean Hannity on Fox recently. So is letting bird flu run through |
| 1:59.3 | flocks a good idea? |
| 2:01.6 | Various infectious disease experts and veterinarians have been saying otherwise. |
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