from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Lerer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, August 26th.

And now for the Democrats, the next phase of their work begins, as does the Trump campaign's work of stopping Harris's

momentum. And here we are on just the Monday morning after the convention, and an interesting

development is that a kind of role reversal is taking place around the Trump-Harris televised debate

or debates that will presumably take place. Have you heard this one yet? Remember, it was the

Biden campaign who asked CNN to shut the mic of the candidate. If it wasn't their turn to speak

in the debate in June, that was to keep Trump from shouting over everything to dominate the night,

which was a problem in the 2020 debates. Now political reports that the Harris campaign is saying it wants both their mics to remain

open at all times, and the Trump campaign is so far saying no.

We'll talk about that script being flipped.

And more now with Philip Bump, national columnist for the Washington Post. Hi, Philip,

thanks for joining. Welcome back to WNYC. Of course. Thanks for having me. And we'll get to the new debate

over the debates, but can you start with the impact of the convention, however it can be measured

at this point? Expert consensus certainly seems to be that it was a smashing success on several levels.

And one that interests me is that it seems to have helped to mobilize an army of volunteers

and small donors to the Harris campaign. That by itself is a big contrast to when Biden was in

the race. Are you seeing any of that? Right.

Yeah, no, I think that's correct.

I mean, there's been a lot of reporting about the extent of fundraising that Harris has seen so far somewhere north of $580 million since she got into the race, which was, again, just a little

over a month ago, that the Politico had this great report, noting that she had received more

individual contributors

within the first, you know, a couple of weeks of her campaign than Biden had over the entire

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