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one place that still operates like the internet was never invented.

On the new season of the divided dial from On the Media, we're exploring shortwave radio,

where prayer and propaganda coexist with news and conspiracy theories, and where an existential battle

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From KQED in San Francisco, I'm Leslie McClurg in today for Mina Kim.

Recently, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired all 17 members of the federal vaccine advisory panel and then replaced some of them with outspoken vaccine skeptics.

That move comes on the heels of his Make America Healthy Again report, which mixes valid concerns about ultra-processed foods and environmental toxins with dubious science and suspected AI-generated content.

Coming up, we'll look at RFK's rhetoric and how it's shaping federal health policy.

That's next after this news. Welcome to Forum. I'm Leslie McClurg. I'm in today for Mina Kim. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is reshaping health policy fast. And he's stirring some pretty deep controversy along the way. He's raised questions about

vaccine safety. He's fired top federal advisors. He's released this sweeping health report that

some medical doctors are calling spot on and others are calling misleading. So what is true? What is

not true? And how should we navigate RFK's public health

agenda? We're joined today by Catherine Wu. She's a staff writer at the Atlantic. And Lauren

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