Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the bulwark, and you're in for a treat,

a glazed treat of a take. We're going to be talking about Dunkin' Donuts because our health and

human service secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has gone to war with New England.

This is remarkable to me. Kennedy going to war with New England. He has said, according to reporting, I guess it was at this event he was at Austin, as part of his Maha initiative, that he's going to be asking, the quote is, we're going to be asking Duncan Donuts and Starbucks.

Quote, show us the safety data that show that it's okay for a teenage girl to drink an iced coffee with 115 grams of sugar in it. I don't think they're going to be able to do it, end quote. Remarkable stuff here. This could tear apart the state of Massachusetts if he's not careful. So I'm with JVL. I'm with Catherine. Two of us came with props. I can't wait to tell you

what's in this thing. It is absolutely grotesque. I will get to that as a teaser in a little bit.

But JVL, you were the most eager to, you know, shoot the shit on this one. Why? What has, what, what's

bothering you here? I just, you know, why, why does Robert Kennedy hate America?

Is there anything more American than Duncan Donuts coffee?

America runs on Duncan.

Yeah.

Some might say, Sam Stein.

Yeah.

Is there anything more New England, really, than Duncan Donuts, than Duncan.

I don't know about you guys, both of you, sort of New Englanders-ish.

I'm from Connecticut. I'm New England.

You know, the first time I was in Boston and I was riding on the tea and I learned that there were platforms where you could hop off, get a Duncan.

Light and sweet. You just say light and sweet. They knew what you wanted. And then hop right back on the tea. I was like, this is wicked pissa. I love this. I love this for us. And this is America. And Robert F. Kennedy wants to destroy that because is he a communist? Is he from Russia? Did we lose a war that there's going to take Dunkin' Donuts away from us, Sam? What is the acceptable, what is the acceptable sugar level for Robert F. Kenny Jr.? Why does he get to decide how much junk I put in my body, right? This would not have gone over well with conservatives 10 years ago, but seems to be fine now. Catherine, what is your actual connection to

Massachusetts? You live there part-time? So I live part-time in Western Mass in the Berkshire,

so on the other side of the state. I know. And yes, we have plenty of dunkeys per capita

here, too. It is the lifeblood of New England, of Massachusetts.

I think if there's one thing that I've learned about Massachusetts,

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