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America Dissected

RFK at HHS

America Dissected

Incision Media LLC

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Abdul and Katelyn talk about RFK Jr.’s first actions at HHS, including his first meeting with employees, where he promised to investigate the pediatric vaccine schedule and the use of mental health meds. Then they break down the nature vs modernity debate, and why the good old days weren’t all good. They also track the most recent firings in the federal workforce purge. Then Abdul interviews physician, professor and writer Dr. Dhruv Khullar about his recent piece in the New Yorker about ultra processed foods. Check out our shop at store.americadissected.com for our new America Dissected merch – including logo shirts, hoodies and mugs. And don’t miss our “Vaccines Matter. Science Works.” t-shirts!

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0:00.0

RFK is in at HHS. That means he has control of NIH, CDC, FDA, and today is the day I hate three-letter acronyms.

0:17.2

This is America Dissected. I'm your host, Dr. Abdu L. Sake.

0:20.3

And I'm your co-host, Dr. Caitlin Jedalina.

0:22.7

And this is being recorded on Tuesday evening, 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

0:30.8

So, Kaelin, as expected, RFK was confirmed as HHS secretary last week.

0:36.6

And as I said at the top, that means he now oversees the CDC, the NIH, the FDA, every other three-letter acronym in which we trusted to provide us high-quality health data, make good decisions about people's health care, and decisions about prescription drugs and food. Now, if that's not scary enough, I just want to offer you some of what

0:55.9

RFK had to say about what he wants to do in his first week on the job. Take a listen.

1:01.8

Our plans are radical transparency and returning gold standard science, NIH, FDA, and CDC,

1:09.8

ending the corruption, ending the corporate capture of those agencies,

1:14.2

getting rid of the people on those panels that have conflicts of interest.

1:18.1

So we can do unadored and unimpeded science rather than the kind of product that is coming out

1:26.1

of those agencies today.

1:28.0

I mean, Caitlin, had this all gone a different way, I imagine that you and I would be talking

1:33.0

about all of the ways that the federal government could be fixed and transformed and made to be

1:37.5

better.

1:38.4

But gutting the thing is really not the way forward.

1:41.6

And what's worse, and I think this runs as a through line between RFK and Elon and Don and all of them,

1:48.7

this idea that they can just say that something is going to be fixed in a particular way,

1:54.5

which indicts the organization that they're quote unquote trying to fix and makes you think that those things were

2:01.8

true. So like the idea that the science was not being transparent in the first place says the king

2:06.3

of conflicts of interest. So I want to I want to just jump right in here, Caitlin. What do you make of

2:13.0

the first couple of moves that RFK has made here? I mean, the first one that came through was an executive order, right?

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