Rex Heuermann's Dark Thoughts Started Young: LISK Gilgo Beach
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 30 April 2026
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
Rex Heuermann told the therapist working with his family that the dark thoughts started in high school. He knew they weren't healthy. He couldn't name what they were. But he knew something inside him wasn't right. He said he started reading books about death — one in particular called Death Scenes, filled with images of mutilated bodies, severed limbs, pure carnage. That's what was feeding his mind during the years when most teenagers are figuring out who they want to be. For Rex, sex and violence were merging into something that would eventually become unstoppable. He said one thought fed another fed another, deeper and deeper, until it consumed him. He said he couldn't put the brakes on it. He said his outlet was to kill.
The Peacock documentary gave the world something no courtroom or police interrogation ever would have produced — extended therapy sessions with one of the most methodical serial killers in American history. Rex described a four-day kill cycle. He timed his body dumps with a stopwatch. He built his kill room in the bedroom where he grew up. And John Douglas — the FBI profiler who wrote Mindhunter, a book Rex himself referenced in his planning document — called him a malignant narcissistic sadistic psychopath and said he believes there are more victims.
Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins me to dissect what the documentary revealed about Rex Heuermann's psychological development — from the adolescent origins of his violent fantasies to the question Douglas raised that hangs over this entire case: did Rex really stop at eight?
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Dree. |
| 0:07.8 | The Peacop documentary about Rex Hiramon, the Gilgo Beach Killer, House of Secrets, did something no courtroom ever would have. |
| 0:16.7 | It put a therapist in a room with Rex Hurerman and let her dig. |
| 0:22.2 | What came out of those sessions is a portrait of a man who's timed his body dumps with a stopwatch, literally, |
| 0:30.6 | who built a four-day ritual around each killing and who says he still can't connect the person and the crime scene photos to himself. |
| 0:40.7 | Raks here him and told the world who he is. |
| 0:42.4 | The question is whether any of us are really hearing it. |
| 0:46.3 | We heard his voice in the dock in part four. |
| 0:50.0 | We've even heard it in the earlier parts too. |
| 0:51.9 | He calls, he calls Asa, he calls Victoria several times during the new episode in the docu-series, and it usually starts with, hello, dear, very folksy, very, like, nothing's going on. How you doing? How's prison? Well, you know, we did this today. We did that today. Not really, you know, it's not the, you know, the scary evil monster where it's like, oh, Rex is on the phone. |
| 1:13.7 | Hello, Satan. that today. Not really, you know, it's not the, you know, the scary evil monster where it's like, |
| 1:12.3 | oh, Rex is on the phone. Hello, Satan is here. That's not, that's not how it goes. It's |
| 1:19.0 | hello, dear. Um, uh, Chavon, is, is Rex still trying to control the narrative here? |
| 1:27.5 | Is he still trying to control Assa and the people in his life and what they view him as, how they view him? |
| 1:34.3 | Or is he even conscious that he's doing it if that's what's going on? |
| 1:38.5 | I think he's conscious of doing it. |
| 1:40.6 | And yes, he's very much, I mean, he can play Asa. |
| 1:46.6 | He knows what to say. And yes, he's very much, I mean, he can play Asa. He knows what to say. And that hello, dear, always creeped me out. That just made my skin crawl. It's, it's, yeah, beyond, |
| 1:56.8 | beyond, I think any of us should be able to understand how to get into a mind like that. |
| 2:03.3 | I loved what the therapist said in the beginning where he said something like, |
| 2:08.4 | have you ever met a serial killer before or something? |
| 2:11.4 | Yeah. |
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