There has to be some common sense.

Yes, sir, they have the car stopped in 10th and branch, Michael Byther.

We still don't know who pulled the trigger. Hello, everyone and welcome to police off Off the Cuff, Real Crime Stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

We have a really exciting show tonight.

And who else but to join me and help me navigate this show, but is the great professor, retired NYPD

sergeant law degree, Mike Gary, and I'm going to bring Mike in right next. Mike, welcome to the show.

Good evening, Billy. Good to see you. Always good to see you because I always refer to you as the

man of reason where I'm the more excitable man

of not reason, you know. But we also have an unbelievable guest tonight. Bobby Chaconna, retired FBI

aged 27 years on the FBI, a Long Island boy too. West Babylon grew up 10 minutes from Gilgo Beach.

How coincidental is that? Hofstra University law school graduating, go fly in Dutchmen,

although they don't call them that anymore. The Hofstra Pride. I used to love it when they were

a Hofstra flying Dutchman. I lived in Levittown 15 minutes away. The jets used to practice at

Hofstra University, and I used to love it. But Bobby Chacon, besides being the real-life career,

is actually way more exciting than his career now.

But you guys will probably find his career now more exciting.

He's a writer for criminal minds,

and he's in the Writers Guild of America.

And I mean, I know that people love, you know, the fake as opposed to the real, but Bobby

Chaconne is the real deal.

Bobby, welcome to the show.

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