Rewiring the Brain After War | Jonathan Dickinson | Ep. 449
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🗓️ 25 May 2026
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Summary
Jonathan Dickinson is the co-founder and CEO of Ambio Life Sciences, one of the world's leading ibogaine clinics. He's spent more than fifteen years on this — apprenticing in Tijuana clinics, running the Global Ibogaine Therapy Alliance, and writing the field's first clinical safety guidelines. He's a Mexico-licensed psychologist. He holds the only active export license for iboga root and led the first Nagoya-compliant export out of Gabon, where he was initiated into two Bwiti traditions. His team co-authored the Stanford study in Nature Medicine on ibogaine and veteran traumatic brain injury. Ambio has now treated over 3,000 people.
Most of what you think you know about ibogaine is probably wrong. It's not a high. It puts you flat on your back for twelve hours and asks for everything. It resets the body off opioids almost overnight. It seems to repair the brain in ways nobody fully understands yet — MS lesions shrinking, a guy walking in with a cane and leaving it behind.
We get into the cardiac risk, the deaths, the Trump executive order, and why the science and the ceremony might not survive being pulled apart. And we talk about the part nobody wants to hear: the medicine doesn't do the work for you.
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| 0:00.0 | Good morning, everybody. Today is Memorial Day. And I did a social media post about this because people |
| 0:06.7 | ask me what I think about Memorial Day or what they should do on that day. And if you saw the post, |
| 0:11.2 | you know my thoughts. I don't think there is a right way or a wrong way. I don't think telling people |
| 0:16.7 | what to do or say or think is really a good long-term path to do anything. It's way less |
| 0:23.8 | influential than people would lead it to believe. So today on Memorial Day, I think the best way |
| 0:31.3 | to open this episode, and this episode, by the way, I have a few that are recorded, and I wanted |
| 0:36.4 | to pick one that was directly in line with the essence of what this day is about remembering those who are no longer here, who gave their life in the service of this nation. |
| 0:46.7 | So today's guest is about steps that veterans can take if they are struggling or a step, I should say. |
| 0:53.1 | And it's not the right fix for everybody, and it's certainly not a magic button. |
| 0:56.4 | But it is a therapy that is having immense impact in the lives of veterans and first responders, |
| 1:03.0 | or those who have seen trauma, or as Jonathan will talk about, addiction as well. |
| 1:07.7 | Before we get into that, a really good tribute to what this day means to Matt Best |
| 1:13.9 | in Black Rifle Coffee is his newest song, Folded Flag. So we're going to open the episode with that. |
| 1:20.4 | And I'm not going to say anything else about it because it speaks for itself. Let's just get into that. |
| 1:24.3 | And then the episode will begin right after the song. |
| 1:57.0 | Music Let's just get into that, and then the episode will begin right after the song. Random roads like we own the land two dumb kids with the master plan laughing at danger never thought about fate at all but it put our lives on different lines |
| 2:03.2 | swear I've seen it in your eyes |
| 2:05.8 | when we joked about never coming home |
| 2:10.5 | now your boots fall quiet in the places I walk alone. |
| 2:20.0 | So I sit right here in our old spot. |
| 2:24.0 | I swear I feel you here, but I know you're not. |
| 2:27.7 | I drink to the night, holding heavy and I wishing you somewhere. |
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