Can changing our consciousness hold off the climate apocalypse?

Welcome to Climate One, changing the conversation about America's energy, economy, and environment.

Climate One conversations with oil companies and environmentalists, Republicans and Democrats, are recorded before a live audience

and hosted by Greg Dalton.

On today's program, we explore the climate

within our souls.

Can we find meaning in these precarious times?

This, I think, is the silver lining in all this darkness. Remember the word apocalypse also

means revelation. So we're in an apocalyptic time, but we all realize the breakthrough is there

too. Matthew Fox is an internationally acclaimed priest,

theologian, activist, and author. His latest work is Order of the Sacred Earth, a vision

of intergenerational love and action, which he co-wrote. Greg's other guest today is Roy Scranton,

author of War Porn, Learning to Die in the Anthropocene, and his latest,

We're Doomed, Now What?

Despite the pessimistic title, Scranton does see a glimmer of light in the darkness.

If I had hope, like this is where it would be in the capacity for human self-reinvention,

the capacity for human adaptation, the capacity for giving our lives meaning

and changing what that meaning is, even in the worst circumstances. Here's our conversation

about climate change, spirituality, and the human condition. Roy Scranton, you write that you were a kid who loved to read, you cried at the

slightest provocation, and then you, after 9-11, you joined the army to go to war and be a man.

And you write that in 2003, in the brutal, warm days of Iraq,

quotes, were some of the sweetest and purest days

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