For the past 30 years, the most popular video games of all time have been what's called

first-person shooter games, or have had some element of first-person shooter, meaning

you start the game and you're in this world on the computer that you see from a first-person

point of view, and other people could be other friends or anybody on the network or other

people in the game are trying to shoot you and you're trying to shoot them. And then when

you shoot them, you get their money and you can buy more powers or more weapons or you can

find weapons. And there's an entire world, this 3D world universe that you're walking around in,

like kind of like Grand Theft Auto or Fortnite, you know, these very popular games. The very first one,

the grandfather of all these first-person shooter games is called Doom. I remember playing Doom

in 1994. My friends and I would play every single day. It was so amazing. It blew my mind. It was

the first game with real 3D graphics that you're walking around in and it's networked. So you

could shoot and kill your friends, which is something we all want to do occasionally. But Doom

was the game. The creator of Doom, John Romero, is on the podcast today, talks about what makes a great

game. What do you need to do if you want to get into the gaming business or industry? If you want

to make a good game, he wrote a book called Doom Guy, Life in First Person, and we talk about it right

now. This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host. This is the James

Outers Your Show. John, I think I've been playing computer games made by you or worked on by you

since I was a little kid. You worked on Ultima, right? First off, I'll save you intro. You're the Doom

Guy. That's your book is Doom Guy. I played that nonstop in 1994 and 1990. All the incarnation, Doom

1, Doom 2, whatever it was out there, I played. This is probably the last hardcore computer game

I played. Hardcore meaning it's not like online chess or back em or anything like that. It's a

computer game, a role playing computer game. I never got into Fortnite and I started having kids

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