Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture. It's The Wall Builders Show, taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. And you've got to do the same thing. You've got to take on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. That's one reason to listen listen to wall builders every day of the week so that you're getting equipped and you can get

engaged with the intellectual ammunition that you need to be engaged at the local level. But all

of us, we've got to have that biblical perspective. That means diving into God's Word. We're going to

talk more about that today and how important it is for our seminaries, especially, to have that.

But are we in a revival? That's the big question today. Rick Green here with David and Tim Barton.

And David, you used to have a cassette tape on this. I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, and that

ages me there by saying cassette tape. But you talked about the difference between revival and

reformation and what you see in the culture years later if you really did have a

revival. I think most people who pray for revival don't have a clue what they're praying for.

They're praying for a lot more work, a lot more messy stuff to take care of because if you're

going to have a revival, you've got to get the bad stuff to the surface and deal with it.

And that's the only way you're going to have a reformation is to get that bad stuff out.

And so it had to be done with slavery.

It had to be done with, you know, all these other issues that we've had to deal with.

And so people are praying.

And I know churches all over the country are praying for revival.

And they'll mention that in Sunday service with the prayers, Lord send a revival.

Question is when it comes, are you prepared for it? What are you willing to do?

How much work are you willing to put in? Because the revival is not God just sweeping all

the garbage out of the house. And we don't have to worry about it anymore. There's a lot that

goes with the revival. Well, and, you know, to that point, Dad, you've talked about this a long time. Rick and I have grown up hearing

you talk about it. We now talk about it. But it's so much more, and this is maybe even where the

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