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Truth with Vivek Ramaswamy

Revitalizing the American Economy with Oren Cass

Truth with Vivek Ramaswamy

Vivek Ramaswamy

Business, News, Government

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Vivek Show, host Vivek Ramaswamy is joined by guest Oren Cass, an American public policy commentator, political advisor, and author. Cass, who played a key role in Mitt Romney's 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns and serves as the executive director of American Compass. Together, they delve into a critical examination of the neoliberal conservative approach, discussing the need for a revised vision that emphasizes the common good over "market fundamentalism." Cass argues for a more balanced approach to trade policy, suggesting the necessity for public policy in safeguarding American liberty, prosperity, and the domestic industry. Through this engaging conversation, listeners can gain a fresh perspective on the role of government in economic regulation and the future of conservative ideology. -- Donate here: https://t.co/PE1rfuVBmb For more content follow me here: Twitter - @VivekGRamaswamy Instagram - @vivekgramaswamy Facebook - http://facebook.com/VivekGRamaswamy Truth Social - @VivekRamaswamy Rumble - @VivekRamaswamy -- 00:00 - Vivek Ramaswamy introduces Oren Cass and the topic of the episode 02:40 - Discussion on the need for a shared national identity in conservatism 03:00 - Oren Cass talks about the necessity for a revised trade policy 04:40 - The shortcomings of the free trade consensus 05:00 - Ramaswamy asks Cass about specific policy changes needed 07:00 - Cass highlights the role of government in promoting domestic industry 07:04 - Discussing the lessons learned from China's mercantilism 10:00 - Concern over China's use of companies for non-economic agendas 12:00 - The need for a nuanced approach to decoupling from China 14:00 - Reference to Reagan's quotas on Japanese car imports 20:53 - Cass's argument for using markets as a tool 23:40 - Ramaswamy's view of the market as a just system for meritocratic allocation 26:00 - Distinction between conservative and liberal views on markets 28:26 - Cass and Ramaswamy discuss different visions of progressives and conservatives 31:00 - Examples where the conservative approach may not have worked 33:40 - Agreement to continue the discussion in future segments Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

One of the premises of this campaign is to rediscover our shared national identity.

0:14.2

What does it mean to be an American?

0:16.4

Right, you ask most people my age, that question,

0:19.2

you literally get a blank stare in response.

0:22.0

I think that's a vacuum of identity. I think when you have a vacuum

0:25.0

that runs that deep, that is when poison begins to fill the void. And I think we need to fill that

0:31.2

vacuum with a vision of American national identity that runs so deep that it dilutes the woke agenda, the climate agenda, whatever it is that fills that void, that fills that void of purpose and meaning diluted to irrelevance rather than just

0:46.9

playing a game a whackamole one at a time.

0:49.7

That's what I'm talking about in the national campaign.

0:53.2

But I think at the heart of that,

0:54.5

for the conservative movement to be

0:56.8

the movement that leads the way on that,

0:58.6

as I think we should in the Republican Party,

1:00.9

more importantly in the conservative movement more broadly.

1:04.8

There's a separate debate raging beneath the surface of what it means to be a conservative today.

1:11.0

Do we believe in free markets, do we believe that capitalism, including on a global scale,

1:16.6

is the best known system to mankind to lift people up from poverty?

1:20.5

Or do we believe that there is some role for the American government to advance the American interest even when that conflicts

1:27.6

with the demands of at least a 1980 vision of global capitalism? These are deep questions. There are questions that would be more

1:34.4

convenient to skirt with talking points than to address head on. I think today we're

1:40.5

going to have what I predict is a little bit of an uncomfortable conversation

1:45.5

about the heart of some of those trade-offs but which go to the heart of the future of our

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