Confronting Myths of Systemic Racism: A Deep Dive with Heather MacDonald

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Vivek Ramaswamy

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🗓️ 15 May 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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In this powerful episode of The Vivek Show, guest Heather MacDonald, renowned commentator and author of 'When Race Trumps Merit', provides a thought-provoking perspective on racially conscious policies, systemic racism, and the academic skills gap in America. MacDonald argues that family culture, not racism, largely influences this gap and explores the role of victimhood culture in distorting our understanding of the present. She also challenges common narratives about racial proportionality, offering insightful counter-examples such as the success of West African immigrants in the US. Join us for this frank and eye-opening discussion on race, crime, and education in America. -- Donate here: https://t.co/PE1rfuVBmb For more content follow me here: Twitter - @VivekGRamaswamy Instagram - @vivekgramaswamy Facebook - http://facebook.com/VivekGRamaswamy Truth Social - @VivekRamaswamy Rumble - @VivekRamaswamy -- Time-codes: [00:00] Introduction to this episode. [00:02:16] Heather MacDonald introduced by Vivek Ramaswamy. [00:05:18] Heather discusses campus mob targeting her for speaking openly about race and crime. [00:08:00] Heather discusses the role of college bureaucracy and diversity bureaucrats in enabling victimhood culture. [00:16:10] Heather reveals higher per-student funding for inner-city schools than suburban schools. [00:17:00] Heather identifies family culture as the root cause of the academic skills gap. [00:19:27] Heather criticizes denial of the role of family culture in student performance. [00:23:29] Heather talks about institutional preferences for black and Hispanic applicants. [00:31:00] Heather discusses the impact of the George Floyd race riots on institutions. [00:33:00] Vivek questions whether the absence of purpose in arts and humanities within companies is part of the problem. [00:35:00] Heather argues for the mission of an art museum to preserve and curate works of beauty. [00:37:00] Vivek and Heather discuss America's self-confidence and self-criticism. [00:39:46] Vivek praises Heather MacDonald's book for revealing the truth beyond politics. [00:40:10] Vivek discusses the conflict between diversity and merit as highlighted in Heather's book. [00:40:50] Vivek notes that not all societal solutions will come from policy. [00:41:00] Heather emphasizes the importance of facts to combat the false racism narrative. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I've long said that one of the problems with virtue signaling is that at some point the appearance of virtue becomes more important
0:18.8	than actually being virtuous. I think we see that with respect to a range of racially conscious policies across
0:27.2	America that have actually left black Americans worse off in the name of helping them.
0:34.0	Aid, supposed aid from Lyndon Johnson's great society that actually rolled back
0:39.0	some of the benefits that black families enjoyed, like a stable family foundation in the
0:44.0	1960s no longer the case today in part because the government gave them an incentive
0:49.0	to live in single-parent households rather than dual parent households.
0:53.6	Affirmative action, effectively a cancer on our national soul in part because it's a form of psychological
0:59.2	slavery that holds black Americans back by teaching them that they can't get ahead without actually
1:05.2	somebody giving them a boost. Anti-crime policies across the country which were diluted
1:11.8	by clear the jails and Black Lives Matter and
1:15.8	defund the police movements that actually have created, who would have ever
1:19.4	thought, more crime in the very communities that they were supposedly protecting.
1:24.3	Well today I'm joined by a guest on the podcast who has thought a lot about the
1:29.4	gap between what it actually means to be virtuous
1:33.2	versus actually signaling the appearance of virtue
1:36.2	and the costs of that for not just a society,
1:39.0	but a nation, a great nation that has lost
1:41.5	our national identity and we hope to revive again.
1:44.7	But the path to reviving that national identity runs through, I think, a very hazy space and a hazy fog that we're in now and one of the people who will I think help us clear that fog is none other than the clear mind of Heather McDonald.
1:59.3	She's a Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, somebody who I've been following her career by reading her articles and the pages of the Wall Street Journal and her appearances on television.
2:08.0	It's the first long form conversation we've had that we've had some interactions over the years.
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