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Revisiting the ObamaCare Decision

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🗓️ 19 September 2012

⏱️ 9 minutes

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This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Wednesday, September 19th, 2012.

0:08.6

I'm Caleb Brown at the Cato Institute's annual Constitution Day festivities attorney and Cato Institute's senior

0:14.5

fellow Randy Barnett revisited the big case of the term, the case that decided the fate of

0:19.7

the President's health care law known as Obamacare.

0:26.0

The legal challenge to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,

0:29.0

commonly known as Obamacare, which I advocated as a law professor before representing the National Federation of

0:35.0

Independent Businesses, one of its lawyers, was about two huge things.

0:39.3

Saving the country from Obamacare and saving the Constitution for the country.

0:45.0

To my great disappointment, we lost the first point in the Supreme Court's 5 to 4 ruling

0:49.7

to uphold the Health Care Act.

0:52.1

But to my enormous relief, we won the second.

0:55.6

Before the decision, I figured that it was all or nothing.

0:58.7

If we lost on Obamacare, it would mean

1:01.0

that the government and law professors reading of the commerce and necessary and proper clause it would have

1:05.0

have prevailed. If we won, it would be because our theories of the

1:09.7

commerce and necessary and proper clauses had been affirmed by the court.

1:13.2

But as it happened, although we did not succeed in invalidating

1:16.5

Obamacare, our view of the commerce and necessary

1:19.1

and proper clauses were affirmed by five justices.

1:23.1

If before the case was decided you had put a gun to my head

1:26.3

and mandated that I choose one of these outcomes

1:29.3

over the other, I believe I would have picked the Constitution.

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