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Revisiting the Assassination of Fred Hampton: New FOIA Docs, COINTELPRO, and the "Black Messiah"

Rev Left Radio

Breht O'Shea

News, Society & Culture, Politics, Philosophy

4.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2021

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Breht welcomes Aaron J. Leonard back on the show, this time with his co-author Conor Gallagher, to discuss new FOIA documents they recently received regarding the FBI agent assigned to Fred Hampton, the informant who helped in the efforts to assassinate Fred Hampton and Mark Clark, what the left gets wrong in their understanding of COINTELPRO, and reactions to the new film on Fred Hampton "Judas and the Black Messiah".

Check out Aaron and Conor's books:

A Threat of the First Magnitude: FBI Counterintelligence & Infiltration from the Communist Party to the Revolutionary Union

Heavy Radicals: The FBI's Secret War on America's Maoists

 

Previous Rev Left episode on Fred Hampton here:

https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/fred-hampton

 

Outro Music: "Fight For You" by H.E.R.

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0:00.0

Hello everybody and welcome back to Revolutionary Left Radio.

0:09.2

On today's episode I have a really interesting sort of episode that was put it together at

0:14.4

the last minute because of the time-sensitive nature of what we came across.

0:18.6

I have back on the show Aaron Leonard from our Heavy Radicals episode and our folk artist

0:22.8

Communist Party and FBI episode and he's here with his co-author on Heavy Radicals as

0:27.6

well as a second book that I've never had a chance to do an episode on a threat of the

0:31.8

first magnitude and that is Connor Gallagher.

0:34.0

So Aaron and Connor recently, I think it was Aaron that reached out, filed a FOIA request

0:39.4

years and years ago regarding the Co-Intel program, regarding Fred Hampton, etc.

0:44.8

and I think it was in 2015 and only in December, actually December 4th of 2020, the 51st anniversary

0:51.7

of Fred Hampton's assassination.

0:54.0

He finally got back some of the documents he had been looking for and he came to Rev

0:58.9

Left to open up that FOIA document and share some of this stuff that he learned.

1:03.9

It doesn't radically alter the picture of the Fred Hampton assassination but it does

1:08.0

give us more insights and throughout this episode we do the important job of complicating

1:14.2

simplistic narratives that people might have about the Co-Intel program.

1:18.4

I think it's really important to do that as they say throughout this episode we have to

1:22.5

understand the way that those such programs as the Co-Intel Pro operate and how they actually

1:28.8

do it not fall into some sort of simplistic elementary understanding of these things

1:33.0

if we ever hope to be able to move for a better world for social justice because the moment

1:39.4

that people move towards an organization of power that can make a better, more just,

1:45.2

more egalitarian society rooted around values of justice and truth.

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