From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

This is challenging material, and it's a whirl that most places you show it,

it's going to feel like a world away from anybody else's life.

And yet I've been consistently amazed at how much people are seeing of themselves in the film,

and I think that's the key.

When Barry Jenkins' film Moonlight premiered at Telluride in 2016,

he had no idea how many people would connect with his drama

about a gay black boy growing up in a tough Miami neighborhood.

This holiday weekend, we revisit our conversation with Jenkins

and producer Adela Romanski.

They tell us how persistence and kismet led to the creation of the Golden Globe-winning

moonlight.

But first on the news banter, the Directors Guild weighs in, and Deadpool is officially an awards contender.

Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my fellow banterer, Matt Bellany of the Hollywood reporter. Hello, Matt.

Hi there. So the awards season is rolling down the track very quickly now. The Director's Guild most recently came up with its list.

Now, in the main nominations, I would say there are not a lot of surprises there or possibly not

really any. We're looking at Moonlight, Lion, La La Land, Manchester by the Sea, and Arrival. So this is a list of all first-time nominees, which is saying something.

Now, notably, Denzel Washington is not there for fences, Martin Scorsese not there for silence, Mel Gibson not there for Hacksaw Ridge.

But I'd say this is a list.

We'd be surprised if any of these were not listed for Academy Award nominations when those

come out. Yeah, I mean, the Directors Guild usually matches up with the Best Director category

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