Revisiting Kate's Conversation with Phoebe Robinson
Food with Mark Bittman
Sweetness and Light
4.8 • 981 Ratings
🗓️ 28 January 2026
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
The comedian talks to Kate about her show, Clash of the Cookbooks, and why we need more positive television; being a podcasting pioneer; the beauty of a good graze; and, for the first time, making content that her beloved niece and nephew are allowed to watch.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Food with Mark Bitman. I'm Kate Bitman. Thanks for being here. We know how many of you are loyal listeners and we appreciate that so much. If you'd like to hear more from Mark and me and our small but mighty team, check us out on bitmanproject.com. When you subscribe there, you'll get access to our recipe database, which now has thousands of recipes, with more added weekly. |
| 0:27.3 | If you prefer a substack experience, we're on there, too, bitmanproject.substack.com. |
| 0:34.0 | Reach out to us with any questions, comments, or stuff you think should be featured on the podcast or on our site, food at markbitman.com. We have another really good rerun for you today. |
| 1:02.4 | Mark's been traveling for almost a month, mostly on a Regent 7C's cruise ship, lots of time in Antarctica, which I'm sure Hawaii about. But that didn't leave |
| 1:12.4 | us much time for interviewing, which gave me the opportunity to find a couple of episodes I love |
| 1:17.9 | and wanted to rerun, like last weeks with Kyle McLaughlin and this week's with comedian Phoebe |
| 1:24.2 | Robinson. We've got a brand new episode next week. |
| 1:33.5 | Phoebe Robinson, who is even nicer and smarter and more introspective than I'd imagined, |
| 1:42.0 | was a co-host with Jessica Williams of the much-loved podcast and then TV show, Two Dope Queens. |
| 1:46.0 | The two of them interviewed other famous people like Lovar Burton, |
| 1:52.1 | John Hamm, and Tegnataro, but more importantly, they charmed everyone who was smart enough to listen. |
| 1:57.9 | The show was number one on the Apple podcast charts, which is an impossible feat. |
| 2:02.7 | Last year, I interviewed Phoebe for her cooking show, Clash of the Cookbooks. |
| 2:08.0 | Each episode features three chefs, and they have to cook from some of the most random cookbooks, |
| 2:13.3 | like cookbooks written in hieroglyphics, crazy French shit, soups from the Seinfeld cookbook, and iconic desserts of the 1960s from the actor Vincent Price. |
| 2:18.8 | I'm not normally super into cooking competition shows, but I can be swayed and Clash of the Cookbooks, |
| 2:24.0 | which Phoebe hosts and judges with culinary historian Max Miller is really charming. |
| 2:30.1 | And after you listen to my chat with Phoebe, you'll understand a big reason why. |
| 2:35.5 | Well, first I have to say welcome, we're so happy to have you. |
| 2:39.2 | My dad is teach. |
| 2:40.4 | He teaches at Columbia on Thursdays, but I was like, there's no way we're missing out on |
| 2:44.5 | having Phoebe Robinson on the podcast. |
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