Revisiting America’s Caste System (with Isabel Wilkerson)

Stay Tuned with Preet

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Politics, Government, Society & Culture, News

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🗓️ 21 July 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Isabel Wilkerson is a journalist and author who in 1994 became the first African American woman to win a Pulitzer Prize in Journalism. Preet spoke with Wilkerson in August 2020 about her bestselling book, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents. Wilkerson discussed the difference between caste and race, the ways that Nazi Germany drew inspiration from American racism, and the need for radical empathy as we deal with our own enduring caste system. *This episode initially aired in full on August 13th, 2020. For show notes and a transcript of the episode, head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/revisiting-americas-caste-system-with-isabel-wilkerson/ Tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	From Cafe and the VOX Media Podcast Network, welcome to Stay Tuned.
0:06.0	I'm Pete Barara.
0:08.0	The reason why I think Cas is such a useful term in understanding human interactions and
0:13.2	the impulse to categorize and then rank is that that's potential to take, certainly
0:19.0	Americans away, from the emotions to get attached to race and racism.
0:28.0	That's Isabelle Wilkerson.
0:30.0	In 1994, as the Chicago Bureau Chief for the New York Times, she became the first African
0:35.3	American woman to win a Pulitzer Prize in journalism.
0:39.0	Wilkerson joined me in August of 2020 to discuss her latest book, Cast, The Origins of
0:44.6	Our Discontents.
0:45.6	It became a New York Times Best Seller and was nominated for the National Book Award.
0:51.0	This week we're re-aering in full the conversation I had with Wilkerson about Cast, which examines
0:56.5	how hierarchies form across societies, from the United States to India to Nazi Germany.
1:03.1	Nearly two years after my conversation with Wilkerson, I am still thinking about her book
1:07.6	and its lessons.
1:09.3	That conversation is coming up.
1:11.6	Stay tuned.
1:13.6	Hey folks, Pete here.
1:19.2	As we enter the holiday season and gear up for time with friends and family, there are
1:23.3	no signs of the new cycle slowing down.
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1:29.8	the latest headlines, not just in your head, but also at the dinner table.
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