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Politics Weekly UK

Revisited: How the Beatles helped my autistic son find his voice

Politics Weekly UK

The Guardian

Politics, News

4.01.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 January 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In this podcast from 4 April, John Harris speaks to Today in Focus about how music helped him connect with his son, James. Harris tells Helen Pidd what he has learned about the way some autistic people experience music, and how songs opened up the world for James. Plus, they discuss the challenges and stereotypes autistic people still face. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/politicspod

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:10.1

Hello, John Harris here. I hope you enjoy your Christmas break. The politics with the UK team

0:14.4

are on holiday, but we didn't want to leave you without something to listen to. This episode is

0:19.0

very special to me because it's an interview I did with

0:21.4

our sister podcast today in Focus about my memoir, Maybe I'm Amazed, a story of love and connection

0:27.5

in 10 songs. It's about how the music of the Beatles, craftwork, Amy Winehouse, and many more

0:32.6

have shaped my relationship with James, my autistic son. Politics Weekly UK will be back on Monday the 5th of January,

0:39.3

but for now, I hope you enjoy listening to this.

0:44.5

James was, it's about to turn three.

0:48.4

We went to Pembroke Castle.

0:49.9

I remember taking James to the top of one of the towers,

0:52.9

and as anyone would say,

0:54.0

what can you see, James? Can you see all the little cars and the top of one of the towers, and as anyone would say, what

0:54.5

can you see, James? Can you see all the little cars and the little people? And in response,

0:59.0

he was just reciting scripts from kids TV. In a very sort of low whisper, he'd say, time for

1:06.1

teletubbies, time for teletubes. This is John Harris. Many of you might know him as the presenter of our sister podcast, Politics Weekly.

1:14.6

He's talking about his son, James.

1:17.2

And that sort of scripting got even more pronounced at night.

1:20.8

I remember going up when he was in bed.

1:22.2

He was really kind of intensely scripting coming out like a human tape recorder with these things that he

1:29.3

heard on the TV. And I couldn't sort of pull him out of it. I remember kind of saying,

1:33.3

I'm here now, you're okay? And he wasn't really registering that I was there. Yeah. I felt quite

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