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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Revisionist History Presents: The Limits of Power

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.5 • 4.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Malcolm has been writing about race and policing for a very long time, going back to the killing of Amadou Diallo in 1999. Sometimes, it is useful to take a step back and consider policing in a broader context. Here we present a chapter from Malcolm's book David and Goliath, which includes an analysis of a riot in Northern Ireland in 1970. Many miles and many years away. About divisions of religion and class and not divisions of race. But the core questions to be asked in 1970 and 1999 and today are the same: if you have power, what does it mean to use it, and use it wisely? And what are the consequences if you don't?

David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits and the Art of Battling Giants was published in 2013 by Little, Brown and Company. Audiobook production by Hachette Audio.

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0:00.0

Hello, this is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, writer, director, and swimmer,

0:13.2

and I love films. Come join me on my podcast, Films To Be Barried With, where I invite a special

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0:24.6

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0:40.9

Hey everyone, this is Justin Richmond. We were all set to bring you a conversation between

0:45.8

Rick Rubin and Rizzard today that we taped a couple of weeks ago. But in light of the heaviness

0:52.6

of the last week and what's going on this week, we figured it'd be best to hold that, at least

0:58.9

until next week. The music industry is doing something called Blackout Tuesday, where a lot of

1:05.5

people are refusing to do business as a symbol of not wanting to go on with business as usual.

1:13.8

Even though it was a podcast, we're only really music adjacent. Rick's involved in the music

1:18.2

industry, of course, and artists we have honor involved. We just figured it'd be best to take

1:23.6

a week off and do some deeper thinking. We did think instead of just not running something,

1:31.8

we would bring you something from our other host, Malcolm Gladwell, who's written about

1:37.0

policing a lot throughout his career. And he had a chapter in his book, David and Goliath,

1:43.8

that he really wanted to share with you guys. And we hope that you get a chance to listen and

1:49.5

make you think whatever you think that it just maybe adds to the dialogue that's going on right

1:58.4

now. And we'll be back with the Rizzard from Wu Tang next week talking to Rick. And we hope you

2:05.2

guys all stay safe in the meantime. And we appreciate you guys. And yeah, we'll be back next week.

2:12.0

Enjoy this chapter from Malcolm's book, David and Goliath. Here's Malcolm.

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