Revising the stories we hold dear with Denise Hamilton

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🗓️ 13 February 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Denise Hamilton is an inclusion strategist who works with organizations ranging from the UN to the WNBA. She is also the author of Indivisible: How to Forge our Differences into a Stronger Future. Denise and Adam discuss the pain of abandoning old stories, the value of revising long-held beliefs, and how to respond to the backlash against diversity and inclusion. Indivisible is out now. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts

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0:00.0	Ted Audio Collective.
0:02.0	Audio Collective.
0:04.0	Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant.
0:10.0	Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the science of what makes us tick with the Ted
0:15.1	Audio Collective. I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the minds of
0:19.8	fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.
0:27.0	My guest today is Denise Hamilton, an inclusion strategist.
0:30.6	Denise is the founder and CEO of Watch Her work, a digital learning platform for professional women,
0:36.0	and All Hands Group, a work culture consultancy.
0:39.0	Her debut book is indivisible, and in a world dominated by division it's a force for
0:44.4	unity. Denise never fails to make me stop him think. She's a master of
0:49.0	injecting complexity into oversimplified issues and shifting the DEI conversation from outrage to insight.
0:57.0	All right, let's do this.
1:02.0	Hey Denise. Hey, Denise.
1:03.0	Hey!
1:04.0	I want to find out how you became an inclusion strategist.
1:08.0	Well, I have been the first or the only woman or black person in almost every job I've ever had. And people
1:17.6	started asking me about that. They started asking me how I was able to navigate these spaces so successfully.
1:26.0	What's the secret?
1:27.5	What are the cheat sheet notes?
1:29.4	And I was prepared to say things they weren't willing to hear.
1:33.1	And that became an opportunity to kind of build
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