Power, purpose, and the American presidency with Jared Cohen

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🗓️ 6 February 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Jared Cohen is a history buff with a career that boasts its own remarkable story. From the State Department to founding Jigsaw at Google to leading global affairs and innovation at Goldman Sachs, Jared has worked with the world’s top leaders to tackle humanity’s biggest problems. His work in international problem-solving also translates into a passion for U.S. history. His new book, Life After Power, is a fascinating exploration about what seven American presidents did after leaving the most influential job in the world. Adam and Jared discuss the psychology of the founding fathers, debate the pros and cons of pursuing a legacy, and share what these historic figures can teach us all about pursuing and finding purpose. Life After Power is out February 13, 2024. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts

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0:00.0	Ted Audio Collective.
0:02.0	Audio Collective.
0:04.0	Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant.
0:10.0	Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the science of what makes us tick with the Ted
0:15.1	Audio Collective. I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the minds
0:19.7	of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.
0:26.5	My guest today is Jared Cohen.
0:28.5	He was a Rhodes Scholar and has been named one a times 100 most influential people. He worked in the State Department
0:34.8	under both Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton, then fought extremism as
0:39.1	founder and CEO Jigsaw at Google. Today he leads global affairs and innovation at Goldman Sachs.
0:45.0	In his spare time, Jared is a history buff and his new book Life After Power is a riveting
0:51.2	look at who seven American presidents became after they left the Oval Office.
0:56.0	It's brimming with insights for anyone who's ever wondered, what's next? Next. I want to talk to you about a lot of things but I have to start it when did you become
1:15.0	obsessed with American presidents because you've been into them as long as I've known you
1:19.8	and I know a lot longer than that. So look, my career has spanned foreign policy, technology,
1:26.8	and now finance.
1:28.3	And the only thing that's consistent in my life
1:30.6	is an unhealthy obsession with the US presidency.
1:34.4	I suppose it started when I was eight years old.
1:37.0	My parents bought me this children's book called The Buck Stops Here,
1:40.7	and it had rhymes that went with each president so I remember you know 10 and
1:43.8	seven Johnson A they almost took his job away and it was kind of very
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