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One of the great joys of marriage over the years has been for me to kind of grow in life as my wife has.

We keep looking at each other, and we both have this hunger to grow, and it's fun to look over

and say, you're growing in this, and we're not the same people we were back then.

That has been consistent in how we handle money as well.

I'm John Fuller, along with Greg and Aaron Smalley,

who lead the marriage team here at the ministry. And everybody's on a financial journey. When you're

married, you're both but together on a journey. Aaron, how about you and Greg in terms of money

and finances? Have you been together on the same page? or has it taken time to kind of get there?

It's taken time because this was the other category that came up on our premarital assessment.

Okay, we talked about the assessment last time and you said conflict was one flag.

Conflict. Finances was too because we were very different in our money styles as well, our spending styles. I definitely

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