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Review of TPT Song of Songs by Tremper Longman

BibleThinker

Mike Winger

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2020

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Tremper Longman tells you what's up with The Passion Translation. My name is Mike Winger and this is my "Passion Project". A project where I've hired a number of scholars to do reviews of different books Brian Simmons' seriously flawed Bible version. Scroll down for the links you are looking for! 0:00 The glorious intro 1:50 The reviewer’s credentials 3:30 Is it honest to call TPT a “translation”? 5:45 Dr. Longman’s BIGGEST issue with TPT’s Song of Songs? 8:19 How big of a deal is this really? 10:01 Simmons is wrong about church history. 16:25 Simmons blames DEMONS for people not agreeing with him. 18:57 How much alteration is taking place in TPT’s Song of Songs? 20:01 Is Dr. Longman bothered by translations that aren’t word for word? 20:51 Does Brian Simmons mislead people about The Passion Translation? 22:20 How Brian Simmons uses the etymological fallacy to translate. 25:00 An example of Simmons adding words to the text. 26:52 Simmons’ use of homonyms is unjustified and misleading. 29:34 How you CAN see Christ in the Song of Songs without altering the text. 30:25 How Simmons misuses the Greek Septuagint and Aramaic. 33:36 Footnotes in TPT may mislead people about scholars. 35:31 Should we trust Simmons’ wild claims? 38:47 Factual error #1 – En Gedi means goat, not lamb. 41:15 Factual error #2 – Sharon does not mean “his song”. 44:32 Factual error #3 – Seal does not mean “prison cell”. 46:50 Where does Dr. Longman think Simmons is getting this stuff from? 48:01 How the way TPT was made is different than how most translations are made. 50:52 What degree qualifications does Brian Simmons have? 51:43 Are people opposed to TPT just spiritually dead religious scholars? 52:55 Are most translations bad? 53:56 Should TPT be in churches, bookstores and Bible apps? 55:21 Do you have anything NICE to say about Song of Songs in TPT? 55:44 A deceptive quote from Simmons’ web site. 56:21 Bill Johnson’s endorsement of The Passion Translation 56:54 A misleading quote from the 2020 edition of TPT 57:28 What Dr. Longman would say to a Christian who loves The Passion Translation 58:19 My FAVORITE part of Dr. Longman’s review! 58:55 What you can expect from my Passion Project. 59:22 Special “cameo” from Brian Simmons You can download Dr. Longman's paper as a Microsoft Word document for free right here. https://biblethinker.org/images/Notes/FINAL_Longman_TPT_-_Song_of_Songs.docx If you want to read it on my website instead of downloading it, this link will work. https://biblethinker.org/index.php/our-media/message/review-of-tpt-song-of-songs-by-tremper-longman/read This is the playlist where I will eventually upload all the interviews as they become available. There should be 5 coming over the next couple months and I hope to eventually add more as I'm able to get more scholars involved in the project. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ3iRMLYFlHuv-ISp_iIw1WL8zaEm86L8 I want to give thanks to those who have donated to this ministry to not only enable me to continue teaching regularly online but to go above and beyond by doing this special project and to make everything I do totally free.

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Brian Simmons is the author of the Passion Translation, the suddenly wildly popular revival Bible,

0:06.9

which has been endorsed by famous pastors, it's showing up in Bible apps, like U-version on websites,

0:11.7

and in many churches, it has become their Bible from their

0:14.9

pulpit they use the passion translation. What's alarming is that Brian

0:18.9

Simmons doesn't appear to have the normal qualifications for doing a Bible

0:21.9

translation. He does claim, however, that God

0:24.6

has given him secrets of Hebrew and Greek to make a translation unlike any we've had before.

0:30.3

Here's Brian sharing this with his own lips.

0:33.0

When I translate the word of God and I do the ministry he's called me to do,

0:36.5

I want the spirit of the Lord like intimate lovers that the spirit would would breathe into me and as I exhaled it becomes revelation to the people of God.

0:46.0

I believe God gave me the key to the book of Proverbs.

0:49.0

I discovered and uncovered so many mysteries and glory realms in the book of songs it will take your

0:54.0

breath away. I'm telling you secrets that only come from above. I'm here to

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share some of those secrets with you. But what if we could hire top scholars to review the passion translation thoroughly and then

1:06.5

tell us what they honestly think about it.

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Well that is what my passion project's all about. With your help, I've been able to hire

1:12.3

top scholars and this is the first

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review in that series of reviews we're starting with the book the song of songs

1:18.8

which Brian says is his favorite book of the Bible. The first is the song of songs I pick my favorite book of the Bible.

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The first is the song of songs.

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I pick my favorite book.

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It is the translation from the authentic original Hebrew Aramaic

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