Reverse Course: Sheep meet solar, AI detects wildfires
Here & Now Anytime
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4.1 • 953 Ratings
🗓️ 22 May 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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And, as a historic drought desiccates the West, artificial intelligence has proved beneficial for detecting wildfires long before humans can. Here & Now’s Peter O’Dowd visits facilities in Arizona, Colorado and California to report on the effectiveness and the potential risks of using AI cameras and satellite footage to track wildfires.
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| 0:00.0 | WBUR Podcasts, Boston. |
| 0:06.3 | If you're in the middle of fire season, battling active blazes, the last thing you want is false alarms. |
| 0:12.3 | AI is helping detect wildfires in the West. It's a powerful tool, but humans still have to do the work of actually fighting and preventing those fires. |
| 0:32.4 | This is here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR. I'm Chris Bentley. |
| 0:41.0 | Today, Here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR. I'm Chris Bentley. Today on the show, we've got another installment of our environmental series reverse course. |
| 0:45.6 | It also happens to be NPR's Climate Solutions Week, and the theme was local lessons. |
| 0:51.3 | So we looked for stories close to home. |
| 0:53.9 | I drove south from Chicago to Illinois |
| 0:56.3 | farm country for a glimpse at how solar farms and agriculture are sharing the land, like sheep |
| 1:02.0 | grazing under solar panels. They like eating grass. As long as they got good, clean grass in front of |
| 1:06.7 | them, they don't matter to them where they're at. Also, Peter O'Dowd made a whistle-stop tour of three states in the West to find out how |
| 1:14.7 | fire agencies are using artificial intelligence to detect wildfires. But can AI-equipped cameras |
| 1:21.0 | tell the difference between smoke and a cloud of dust? In the early days, there were some funny |
| 1:26.3 | occasions where we detected what we thought |
| 1:29.3 | was smoke, but it was actually a snowblower. We're going to hear those stories in a few minutes. |
| 1:33.6 | But first, Peter, I was surprised to hear just how widespread this practice of AI wildfire detection |
| 1:40.2 | is. You've done a lot of stories on wildfire. Did you ever think AI would be part of the story? |
| 1:45.4 | No, you know, I probably should have. I mean, AI is part of basically everything we do these days, |
| 1:51.6 | but I was working on a story months ago, months ago about birds landing on power lines. And I just had |
| 1:57.9 | a random conversation with the person at the utility who's like, |
| 2:01.0 | oh, you know what else we have on power lines is AI equipped cameras? And I was like, what? |
| 2:05.8 | That's really interesting. And it turns out that utilities and state forest agencies and all |
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