Welcome to Baumill. I'm Erin Simpson. I'm Warren DeYoung-Schelman.

And I'm Rod Iengar. And we are continuing our summer vacation series of a sort. And vacation is a term we're all using a little

loosely. We're in various locales and locations and trying to make do with some uncooperative

technologies. So hopefully everyone can bear with us a little bit. Ladies, what are we drinking this

morning? I am drinking at 11 a.m. I am drinking a vino verde that is pink.

Oh, I'm so jealous.

Rhonda, what are you drinking?

Yeah, me too.

I'm drinking a nice, warm, fresh coffee, but I'm most importantly drinking it at a boathouse in Tahoe.

So really anything would taste good here. And I am drinking an

ice cold Coke because I am at my mother's house, which remains a coffee-free zone that I find

completely inexplicable. And I believe that alcohol at 10 a.m. would be frowned upon in this

establishment. So we're all working to get by here. And we have

a surprising array of topics for this morning, many of which I was completely unaware of until we

began prepping. So we'll have some fun conversation. But to start, we wanted to go back to a

conversation that we kind of teed up a couple of weeks ago, which is around the Trump administration's arms control perspective or lack thereof.

And we have an excellent guest that Rada is going to interview because of some technical issues on our side.

So we will turn it over to Rada and Madeline Creeden. Hi. So yes, I'm very excited to have

Madeline Creeden, who was a former deputy administrator at the National Nuclear Security Administration

and really the lead player in a lot of the arms control discussions and strategies over

the past many years.

Joining us to talk a little bit, hello, Madeline. How are you? Hi, I'm fine. How are good this morning?

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