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You know, I was a writer and an editor long, long before I started doing a broadcast stuff. So I love the written word and particularly enjoy people who do it well. Jack Carr is one of those people. Of course, writing, starting off with the terminal list, a whole series of best-selling novels. Got a new one out. He joins us right now. Jack, how are you doing, you tunnel rat? You? Oh, I know. So I went back there with the

Best Defense Foundation. I've been working with them for a few years, taking primarily World War

two veterans back to the battlefields on which they fought. So the Pearl Harbor and Normandy,

my daughters got involved, our sons got involved, and this is their first time taking

Vietnam veterans back back and they took

a group of MacVisog veterans and invited me to come along so we spent the last 10 days in

Vietnam and it was a extremely powerful experience so I got to crawl into some tunnels but I think

those tunnels were built for somebody a little smaller, if you know what I mean.

Well, and also it's a touchstone, if you will, a throwback to your last novel Cry Havoc, which is based in Vietnam.

That is right. In 1968, Vietnam, wanted to take an espionage thriller and drop it into the heart of Saigon, essentially,

even though there are scenes that take place in Washington, D.C. area and in Moscow, but primarily it takes place in Saigon, and then a couple parts over the border into Laos. So it was focused on Macfizog, so it made sense for me to go along on this trip. And it was such an honor to get to spend time with these guys, because, of course, I grew up reading about them.

And first it was just little hints in magazines like Soldier of Fortune or maybe Gungho magazine, something like that.

You'd see a knife that said McPheesog tribute blade and something like U.S.

Calvary or brigade quartermaster or something.

And then more books started coming out about Macfizog and what they did going

into Laos, Cambodia, North Vietnam. And of course, they essentially created the legacy, the foundation,

the reputation that all special operations forces essentially lived off of until September 11th,

2001. So I'm always in their debt, and these guys were amazing.

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