From America's beginning to her present,

every negative, unjust public policy had what I call a DM on the DL,

a death measurement on the download.

They're not just bad policies.

There are policies that produce so much death in secret.

Then COVID hits.

We have not had one ritual of remembrance. We are witnessing America as a failed social

experiment. How do we tell this story in a way that builds the kind of emotional moments of the colorblind ideology built?

So many young brothers and sisters of the younger generation find themselves so far removed the best of their past.

What are we going to make out of the nothing we've been given?

How do you envision possibilities?

Hey everyone. Thanks for joining us on the tightrope where we love to have a serious and love-infused, justice-valued conversation on very tough issues. But we do it with the best of spirit and with incredible guests.

And my co-host, Dr. Cornell West, is with us as usual.

Hi there, Dr. West. How are you?

It is always a blessing to be in conversation with you.

Yes, and we have quality, quality folk here today for sure.

We have Dr. Reverend Barber with us

and we're gonna have a fantastic conversation.

I'm gonna turn it over to Dr. West immediately

because I know he's got all kinds of things

he wants to ask the amazing Dr. Barber,

especially about the poor people's movement

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