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Retrograde Patterns of 2025 w/ Jason Holley: Life is Created with Fire & Water

Embodied Astrology

Embodied Astrology

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.9929 Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2025

⏱️ 107 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Renee Sills is joined by astrologer and psychotherapist Jason Holley for an exploration of one of 2025’s most interesting and notable signatures - the pattern of retrograde planets moving between water and fire signs.

The two discuss the symbolism of retrogrades, the water and fire elements, and some of the ways they each work with astrology as practitioners of emergent, experiential, and experimental life practice and meaning-making.

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0:00.0

I don't think that the mind and the body are enemies inherently. However, that can be,

0:05.6

that can be what happens, right? Language can become the enemy of embodied experience. It doesn't have to be.

0:12.8

But, and that would be one of the things that can happen with air type of energy is sort of, you know,

0:19.4

a lot of mediation, a lot of conceptual stuff, a lot of like,

0:22.8

you know, not just like, okay, right now, right here, what do I feel? Or what do I, what am I,

0:28.9

what's, what's happening? So there's a happeningness that I feel with fire that is so,

0:34.3

you know, just kind of has to be itself, has to be what it is.

0:41.1

There's a self-existing quality.

0:43.1

Like that is, for me, I keep, you know, pushing my, my body keeps going forward talking about fire, right?

0:51.5

I mean, it has that energy.

1:27.8

Yeah. talking about fire, right? I, relationships, and personal growth. If you're interested in queering, decolonizing,

1:30.8

and playing with astrology,

1:32.6

or learning how to identify the ways in which

1:34.7

astrology appears in your personal life

1:36.8

and our collective times,

1:38.8

join us at Embodied Astrology,

1:40.6

where we offer seasonal horoscopes,

1:42.4

weekly experiential somatic astrology classes,

1:45.8

workshops, live events, study groups, and more. My name is Renee Sills. I'm a second-generation

1:52.2

astrologer and somatic educator. In today's episode, I'm joined by the astrologer and psychotherapist

1:57.9

Jason Hawley for an exploration of one of 2025's most interesting and notable

2:02.8

signatures, which is the pattern of retrograde planets moving between water and fire signs.

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