Retracing A Grandfather’s Footsteps
The Atlas Obscura Podcast
SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura
4.6 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 15 January 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So tell us just about your grandfather. |
| 0:04.6 | What was his name? |
| 0:05.8 | Where was he born? |
| 0:07.5 | Who was he? |
| 0:08.6 | Well, to us, we called him Baba, which was my mother called him for father. |
| 0:13.5 | But we also called him that. |
| 0:15.6 | But his name, formally to other people, was Stepan Mischjian. |
| 0:23.4 | This is Don Anaheid McKean. |
| 0:26.2 | Her grandfather was born in the late 1880s and lived in what was then the Ottoman Empire. |
| 0:32.2 | He was Armenian from a town in what is now Turkey called Adabazar, not far from Constantinople, which of course |
| 0:39.6 | is now Istanbul. Now, I also want to tell you about my grandfather's personality. He was really funny. |
| 0:45.6 | He was so mischievous. He would call up his friends in the middle of the day and tell them, |
| 0:50.8 | oh, you know, we're having a meeting. you must come now, and they all would leave work, |
| 0:55.4 | and, you know, he would get there waiting for this meeting to begin, and he would pass out, |
| 0:59.5 | you know, ice cream and coffee to everyone. And he would make up languages in the middle of a crowd |
| 1:05.0 | just to see, to watch people try to guess what languages was. And so he constantly knew how to reinvent himself. |
| 1:14.1 | I think it was that power of reinvention that really helped him later survive what would |
| 1:19.3 | happen during the genocide. Dawn's grandfather, Stepan, was 28 years old when World War I started. |
| 1:27.0 | Armenians were a Christian minority in the Ottoman Empire. |
| 1:30.3 | And as the Ottoman struggled on the battlefield, |
| 1:33.3 | nationalist leaders intensified their branding of Armenians as traitors. |
| 1:38.3 | Millions of Armenians were deported from their homes |
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